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March 29, 2006
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The special meeting of the Board of Directors of the Truckee Donner Public Utility District was called
to order at 7:00 PM in the TDPUD Board room by President Hemig.
ROLL CALL: Directors Joe Aguera, Ron Hemig, Patricia Sutton, Tim Taylor and Bill Thomason were
present.
EMPLOYEES PRESENT: Mary Chapman, Jim Wilson, Nancy Waters, Kim Szczurek, Steve
Hollabaugh, Peter Holzmeister, Joe Horvath, Ian Fitzgerald and Barbara Cahill
CONSULTANTS PRESENT: Steve Gross, Rick Kaufmann, Laurence Lewis, Calvin Williams and Jack
Bryan
OTHERS PRESENT: Pat Waite, Frank and Juanita Schneider, Pettit Gilwee, Christine Stanley, Pete
Abel, Lin Zucconi, Julius Simon, Michelle Simon, John Eaton, Ellen Hyatt, Don Hyatt, Mary Ann
Ballon, Ann Penfield, Fred Penfield, Lon Zerelli, Jody Zerelli, Dave Klabunde, Joel Erickson, Dan
Dickerman, Kathy Berryman, Elizabeth Creger, Jim Maass, Norm Nichols, Rolf Godon, Sean
Trovensec and 5 other members of the public.
PUBLIC INPUT
There was no public input.
WORKSHOP
DISCUSS BROADBAND BUSINESS PLANNING PROCESS
Peter Holzmeister gave a brief history of broadband and said the Board took action confirming the
District's commitment toward the project and directing staff to pursue financing, with the understand-
ing that matters may develop that would require the course to change.
During the budget process, the Board recognized the broadband efforts and requested a workshop to
review the planning process. This workshop will revisit the issues and decide if the Board wants to
proceed and how.
Cebridge Connections has filed an appeal to the judge's decision regarding the Broadband Business
plan submitted and passed by LAFCo. The TDPUD must deal with the appeal and in turn, this action
could block financing. The appeal has also changed the format of the workshop.
Counsel Steve Gross said the trial court decided LAFCo acted properly and the District has the legal
authority to provide Broadband. The Cebridge appeal does not undue the judge's decision. There is
no legal impediment for the District to move forward.
Pete Abel of Cebridge Connections commented that his company continues to feel there are serious
legal issues, but that litigation is not the ideal way to resolve this. His company would be willing to
enter into a collaborative effort with the TDPUD.
1 Minutes: March 29, 2006
The meeting continued with a presentation by Kim Kersey of Jackson Energy Authority's (JEA) Fiber
to the Home Project.
Mr. Holzmeister went on to say that the TDPUD needs communication to run the electric and water
SCADA monitoring which is now on a separate system. A FTTH system could manage the SCADA
and save dollars. Other public agencies could also benefit from a FTTH system. FTTH incumbents
are interested in larger urban areas and do not see the benefits of a small town. Truckee could
become a "smart community' by plugging into the information economy.
Board discussion followed:
• Need new estimates of construction and implementation costs
• Need new assumptions
• Build a system in phases/scaled down: phase 1 to cover essential public sector uses
• Indemnification insurance - policy to indemnify investor against adverse appeal
• Financing with revenue bonds
• Recap of dollars invested in Broadband to date
• FTTH would provide the highway and providers would offer the services.
• Water and electric SCADA alternative costs
• Appears public wants to move forward- survey overall community
• Investment in infrastructure for community could be an economic benefit
• Sell land and use the dollars as a revolving account to fund broadband costs—easy to identify
The board decided to hold another workshop to supply more information, alternatives, up to date
Broadband financials and action items.
President Hemig opened the meeting for public input.
Lin Zurconi is tired of waiting and wants the PUD to start building a FTTH system.
James Maass (former PUD director) feels the Cebridge appeal is just another delay and the Truckee
community deserves better. There is already an indemnification of the electric and water in the
Broadband business plan. He implores the board to continue with the FTTH project. Mr. Maass
reminded the public that the PUD was formed in 1927 when electric providers could not provide
service and then in the 1930's, the PUD water service was added for the same reason. Broadband
could provide the service the community needs and deserves.
Juanita Schneider said she remembers Pete Abel saying there would be no more lawsuits after the
judge made his ruling.
Joe Erickson asked the board not to drag their feet, don't sit and wait. Broadband would be an
economic boon for Truckee.
Ann Penfield said the broadband plan looks negative and the rate payers are subsidizing. She wants
the PUD to look at other cheaper options. She has read articles where other high speed internet
providers have had to be subsidized.
John Eaton wants the best person to win and have some competition.
Ernest Stambock is involved with the wi-fi industry and says this technology is problematic for this
area with such a diverse terrain. He is in favor of FTTH.
2 Minutes: March 29, 2006
Norm Nichols (real estate agent) was in favor of the FTTH concept when it first came up. His clients
are now saying that DSL service is "good enough". He feels a survey may be a good idea. He is not in
favor of FTTH now.
Dan Dickerman feels there needs to be a better service available than Cebridge. He wants the PUD to
move forward, do a survey and do whatever it takes to get FTTH. He says Truckee deserves better.
Sean Trovense, resident of Donner Lake and line worker, has concerns about the cost to switch to
FTTH and what if it does fail. He feels the District is a protected entity as a Public Utility, making it
unfair to the cable TV company and a bit capitalistic.
Rolf Godon is concerned about the survey- would all rate payers be polled, or would it be a small
group.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-EXISTING LITIGATION: GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 54956.9 (A): CEBRIDGE CONNECTIONS VS NEVADA COUNTY LAFCO.
The closed session item was removed from the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 10:06 PM.
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3 Minutes: March 29, 2006
Alan Harry
From: MRC -James A. Sanwick [fames@stmgllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:14 AM
To: Alan Harry
Subject: TDPUD support
Alan,
I will be unable to attend this meeting as I will be out of town, however, I do want to
stress my support for this initiative and the need for competitive services in Truckee. As
I have told Katrina in the past, I had my house wired with fiber when it was built and
would be happy to be a beta test site when you are ready to go.
James
James A.Sanwick, President
Sierra Tahoe Management Group, LLC
264 Village Road, Suite 201
Incline Village, NV 89451
Phone: 775-772-4898
Fax: 775-832-5810
Email: James@STMGLLC.com
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Alan Harry
From: Sahra H [sahra@lightspeed.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:17 PM
To: Alan Harry
Subject: broadband
Am on the email list. Won't be attending the meeting next week, but we are still
in favor of broadband moving forward. Any idea as to cost estimate?
Thank you.
Sahra A.
Gregory Smith
3/24/2006
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Alan Harry
From: Vrover@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Alan Harry
Subject: Re: Support TDPUD Broadband at March 29 Meeting
Hi,
I can't make this meeting, but please add my name to support list for broadband services. We have a place
in TD on Viking way.
Victor Gold
Berkeley
3/24/2006
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From: "Dave Whetstone" <dgwhetstone@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, March 23, 2006 5:30 am
To: " 'Katrina Paz'" <katrina@gilweepr.com>
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Unfortunately I cannot attend this meeting, but please note that there are many of us who
Support your initiative.
One other thought. You've seen recently that Tahoe Donner is considering burying the
utility poles. I wonder if there is a way to combine the efforts and save some money.
Dave Whetstone
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From: "John Shaw" <John@shaweng.com>
Date: March 22, 2006 3:39:08 AM PST
To: "'Katrina Paz"' <katrina@gilweepr.com>
Subject: RE: Support TDPUD Broadband at March 29 Meeting
Reply-To: <John@shaweng.com>
Katrina
You can tell your Board that I have moved on. Waiting the past couple of
years for the PUD to get their#*&%$ together was no longer bearable. I have
since installed a dedicated T-1 line to my home and constructed a wireless
wide area network(WWAN) so that all of my neighbors can use it as well.
This was a costly venture both in capital as well as ongoing, but you left
me little choice. I paid several thousand dollars in capital and in addition
receive a$450/mo bill for the T-1. That said, at least Uwe have broad band
service rather than an empty promise.
In my opinion, the PUD has lost an opportunity to provide a needed service
to its community. Too many promises, too little progress. In short too
little too late.
John Shaw, P.E.
John Shaw Consulting, LLC
PO Box 4259
Truckee, CA 96160
Phone: (530) 550-1576
Fax: (530) 579-3388
www.shaweng.com
From: "Don Smith" <smithdsl@pacbell.net>
Date: March 22, 2006 7:41:55 AM PST
To: "'Katrina Paz,"<katrina@gilweepr.com>
Subject: RE: Support TDPUD Broadband at March 29 Meeting
Alan,
I will not be able to attend. But I fully support the project and only wish
I had the service today.
Thanks
-Don Smith
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BROADBAND ISSUE? MARCH 23,2006
WE, AS RATE PAYERS WOULD LIKE ASSURANCE THAT WE WILL NOT I3L
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT INCURRED AS A RESULT OF STUDIES,
LAWSUITS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BROADBAND. WHY DO WE
NEED BROADBAND? IT COULD BE SOON OBSOLETE? WE ALREADY HAVE
SBC AND CEBRIDGE FOR HIGH SPEED INTERNET AND IN TALKING TO
MANY SECOND HOME OWNERS;T14hY FEEL THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY
USE: SBC. THE CHARGES KEEP GOING DOWN DUE TO COMPETITION SO
WIIERE DOTS THAT LEAVE THE PUD?
HOW MUCH DEBT HAVE YOU INCURRED TO DATE PERTAINING TO THE
STUDIES,THE LAWSUIT AND OTHER EXPENSES FOR BROADBAND?
WHAT TYPE OF SURVEY WAS GIVEN TO TIIE RATEPAYERS and HOW WERE
THE PARTICIPANTS CHOSEN? I READ THAT ONLY APPROXIMATELY 100
INDIVIDUALS WERE GIVEN THE SURVEY .'PHIS ACCOUNTS FOR
APPROXIMATELY 1/2 Ol PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION.
IN ADDITION, Wl•IAT TYPE.OF PLAN 1S SET UP AT PRESENT TO PROVE THAT
THE COSTS CAN AND WILL BE RECOVERED BY USERS? ,
WHAT WILL BE THE EXPECTEI)CHARGES FOR THE USE OF BROADBAND
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE; DO YOU PROJECT TO SIGN UP FOR THE PUD
BROADBAND?MOST PEOPLE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WERE LOOKING
FOR HIGH SPEED INTERNET BUT TfIAT HAS COME TO TRUCKEE AND MOST
APPEAR TO BE HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICE PROVIDER.IF YOU THINK
'CHAT 40% WILL CHANGE TO A MORE EXPENSIVE SERVICE, I TIIJNK THAT
YOU ARE GRAVELY MISTAKEN. TIIE PRICES THAT I NOTED ON THE NET
ARE VERY HIGH COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE PAYING AT PRESENT. WHY
WOULD WE CHANGE TO A HIGHER PRICED SERVICE?
YOU IIAVE A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE RATEPAYERS TO NOT INCUR
DEBT AND HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN FOR FUTURE ELECTRIC AND WATER
CHARGES. 't'1IESE ARE UTILITIES NEEDhD BY TIlE RATEPAYERS!
1 AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO MORE RATE INCREASES AND WILL FEEL THIS
WAY UNTIL YOU CAN ASSURE ME THAT WE WILL NOT BE ASSUMING THE
EXTRA BURDEN OF BROADBAND SERVICES. THE PROJECTIONS THAT I
FOUND ON THE NET WERE DONE A WHILE AGO. TIMES IIAVE CHANGED!
FOR YEARS, OU R NEIGI-IBORHOOD HAS BEEN REQUESTING
RvIPROV EMENTS TO'f H F, WATER TANK ON THE TOP OF I IILLTOP SO THAT
WHEN WE LOOSE POWER, WE STILL HAVE WATER AVAILABLE TE: TO
FIGHT A FIRE. WE NEED A GENERATOR FOR A BACK.-UP.
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OUR TANKS, PIPES, ETC_ ARE AGING IN OUR TOWN AND THESE ARE THE
ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGIIT UP TO DATE AND FIXED WITH TJ-JE
RATE CHARGES.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR COVERING THESE ISSUES.
ELLIE HYATI'
11330 SKYLINE CT.
TRUCKEE,CALIF.96161
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To: Pat Sutton Fax 587-4182
From: Ann Penfield Date: 3/17/2006
Re: PUD Broadband Project Pages: 2
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March 15,2006
TDPUD
To the TDPUD Board
I have recently read.the TDPUD Fiber to the User FTTU Business Plan dated 7/30/2004.
As a twenty plus year resident and controller for a business in Nevada for the last 15
years I bave found that the data in the report does not provide me with evidence to
support the plan. The wealmesses are many and the benefits are few. Truckee currently ;
has both DSL and Cable available at reasonable prices which have dropped an avg.of at
least 10•/6 per year if not 200/c.
We currently pay about$70 per month or$840 for combined cable TV and DSL and a
Phone line. Your proposed rate requires a S370 hook up and wiring fee plus S125 install
fee. The monthly fee is not even suggested anywhere in the report so I have tried to
calculate it based on the cash flow projections in the plan
In year 4 the report is suggesting 7.5 million in revenues on maybe 5,000 possible
customers which would be$125 per month per customer or$55 more than what I pay
today for DSL. If there were 7,000 subscribers the cost would be$90 per month. At that
rate who would want to subscribe? I would like to see an updated report show how many
subscribers they expect and what they estimate the monthly rate will be per subscriber
Since the plans were originally proposed,I would guess that the current installation costs
have gone up considerably while the competition has been able to lower their rates each
year. This makes it important to revisit the entire concept of the PUD Fiber plan
In a paper by Thomas Lenard of The Progress_$Freedom Foundation Feb 2004 he states
that in the three case studies done one in Kutztown,Penmsylvania they found the
following: `None of the municipally owned entrants is able to cover costs without being
subsidized. The subsidies are conservatively estimated to range from$350 per customer
to over$1.000 per customer,excluding any capital costa" These subsidies appear to be
covered primarily by the surpluses of the municipally owned electric(and other)utilities.
In the absence of these subsidies,electric rates could be lower,or the utility could
contribute to the operating costs of the municipality,which would lower taxes."
"There seems to be very 4ttle prospect of any of the muniripalities paying off its
initial investment. Indeed,in all the cases,it looks as K the telecommunications
venture will be an indefinite drain on the city's tupayers."
Since we already have similar services the paper points out that"It also makes it
exceedingly difficult for the municipalities to attain the combination of market
penetration and price level necessary to make their investments pay." °`Moreover,since
all the municipal telecom providers require a subsidy to be viable,whatever might be !
gained in"lower"telecom prices is offset by higher prices for other services,such as =
electricity,or higher taxes."
In light of the above evidence,I do not support the TDPUD in their current Business Plan
for Broadband in Truckee. I love the internet and spend many hours on it,but I find my
current DSL choice adequate and my utility rates are already increasing each year
without the additional burden of the Broadband.
Sincerely,
Ann 8t Fred Penfield 269 Skyline Ct.Truckee Ca 96161 — ffred@pacbell.net
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