HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972-08-01 Min - Board August 1, 1972
The regular meeting of the Board of Directors of the Truckee-Donner Public Utility
District was called to order by President Nelson Stone at 7:30 in the conference
room.
ROLL CALL: R. Waters, present; D. Anderson, present; H. Loehr, present; N. Stone,
present. Director R. Anderson was exceed on vacation.
,...,. EMPLOYEES PRESENT: Cattan, Paulus, Hutchinson, Silva, Kraj ewski
GUESTS PRESENT: Jean Sollen, Tim O'Leary
MINUTES OF JULY 18, 1972 and JULY 22, 1972
The Board reviewed the minutes of July 18, 1972 and it was moved by R. Waters and
seconded by H. Loehr that the minutes be approved. All aye, motion carried.
The Board reviewed the minutes of the special meeting of July 22, 1972.
Director D. Anderson said that his motion to reject parcel B and accept parcel A
had not appeared in the minutes of July 22, 1972. The President instructed the
secretary to make the correction to the minutes as follows:
"It was moved by D. Anderson and seconded by R. Anderson that the Board
accept the bid on parcel A and reject parcel B. His motion was made
contingent on the legality of making the motion after a previous motion
had rejected all bids. Roll Call: R. Waters, no; D. Anderson, aye;
H. Loehr, aye; R. Anderson, aye; N. Stone, no.
It was moved by D. Anderson and seconded by R. eaters that the minutes be approved
as amended. All aye, motion carried.
BILLS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD
The bills for approval were reviewed by the Directors and questions were answered
by Tom Paulus.
It was moved by R. Waters and seconded by D. Anderson that the bills be paid. All
aye, motion carried.
Mr. O'Leary requested that he be able to present a letter to the Beard. President
Stone gave his consent. The letter was a commendation to George Cattan, Tom Paulus
and Ken Kraj ewski. The letter thanked them for their work on the Pine Vista Apart-
ments project. Mr. Stone thanked Mr. O'Leary for the commendation.
120 ACRE LAND SALE
Mr. Cattan told the Board that Paul Chamberlain had approved the action of the Board
at the last meeting. He prepared a Quit Claim Deed that was sent to the Western
Title Company, so that the District could get the land sale money as soon as possible.
Mr. Cattan said that the interest alone would draw approximately $900.00 per month.
Mr. Fred Damavandi, Development Director for Lakeworld, contacted Mr. Cattan regarding
the bids and requested a copy of the minutes of the special meeting of July 22, 1972.
Lakeworld had been under the impression that they would be paying around $5_,000_:in
assessments. fir. Cattan informed them that the District would pay the $5,000 and
Lakeworld would be responsible for the $15,000 Sanitary District assessment. The
$15,000 entitles them to connect to the two sewer laterials; one at Soma Sierra
and one-at,-at the Donner Trails. Director R. Waters said that the $20,000 is the
District's proportionate share of the cost of the line. A connection fee is charged
in addition to the $20,000.
Mr. Damavandi asked about parcelB. Mr. Cattan told him definately no, the Board had
rejected the bid because it's too low.
Director Henry Loehr opened a discussion on the possibility of logging the 120 acres.
He said that after talking to a'knowledgeable person, he is under the impression that
the timber is not very valuable. President Stone said that the District would have
to hire a forester to work with any logger to insure that a minimum of damage was
done to the land. He said that no logging had been done on the land for over 100
years so the timber should be good. More discussion ensued but no action was
taken by the Board.
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AUTHORIZATION 12" WELL AT SOUTH SIDE SPRINGS
Mr. Cattan reminded the Board that the pump at Donner Creek had been duplicated and
he said that he would 'like to duplicate , the pump at the South Side Spring. The
following discussion took place
R. W. - Why to we need it?
,..., (3. •C. - If anything happens to this pump, we are in grave trouble.
R. W. - Now wait a moment George, you come around and tell us about three months
ago that we have all the water we need,a isufficient supply of water.
G.C. - We have sufficient water, but we don't have the standby for pumping;
the water is down below.
D. A. - How about, can we draw from town or to the Tonini tank.
G. C. - Well, Tonini has a certain amount
R.W. - Well, aren't you still pumping from up there? You are pumping eater now from
the South Side Spring aren't you. Into a holding tank?
G.C. - Yes, we are pumping, but if something goes wrong with that pump.
R.W. - Well, what if something goes wrong, what do you mean by that? How long is
it going to take to repair the pump? It was some years ago when I was a
member of the Board, the policy was to forget about well and pumping and
use the natural flow of water.
G.C. - On Donner Creek we have a 280 gallon pump and recently we installed a new
200 gallon pump. The old one is 14 years old, so we have two pumps but we
never run, but one?
R.W. - You never run except one and you want to put another one up here and you
never run except one.
G.C. - We run one, but the other one is a s tandby..
R.W. - A standby for what?
G.C. - If the other one breaks down.
R.W. - Alright, how long is it going to take to repair it. I asked you that before.
G.C. - A week, maybe ten days.
R.W. - In ten days there will be a critical shortage of water, is that right?
G.C. - Yes.
R.W. - Where?
G.C. - In all the area there and in town, because it supplies the town, too.
R.W. - You mean that one spring supplies. . . . . . That there would be such a critical
shortage of water that the whole town would be out of water?
G.C. - Yes.
R.W. - Your telling me about all these tanks that we've got. . . . . . I can hardly believe
that.
G.C. - You know that Donner Creek?. . . . . . . . . .you were not on the Board then. . . . . .
R.W. - I was on the Board and I voted against it, but when I got off the Board
they put the well in.
G.C. - Thats right you were on the Board. . . . .
R.W. - How much money did you put into it, George?
G.C. - About $14,000 Page 244
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R.W.- Your going to put another $14,0 0 0. . . . well, that was 3 years ago. . . .the cos is
have gone up 1S o, so you have $20,000. For a standby.
G.C.- You have got to have a standby, every where for water.
R.W. -You people are really intent on spending this $180,000 in hurry.
.. G.C.- I am in a hurry. I have been waiting for this money, to spend it.
R.W.- I think if you are going to spend it there are far better improvements on
this water system then to spend it on a stand by well.
G.C.- (demonstrating on the chalk board) You've got this old well here and that pumps
into the spring and then from here, there is an ordinary pump which pumps the
water. This gives 1I gallons. You can never tell, it may run for another year
and it may not. And what we need is another one in this area. . . . .it depends on
what the hydralogist would say. . . .Maybe we would sink the well aroung here, that
is why we kept all this area.
R.W.- Alright then.
D.A.- Were is the pumping station next to the road, the one that was jus remodeled.
G.C.-Well, this is the booster up there.
R.W.- Where is the pump that pumps the water up into the tank?
G.C.- This one pumps into here.
R.W.- Where is the well that pumps into the tank up at Ponderosa? Does it come out of
there?
pool% G.C.- Yes.
R.W.- Does it pump water into the tank at Ponderosa?
G.C.- No, these are interconnected. . . .its a very complicated system.
R.W.- Well, I mean is it connected with these tanks up at Ponderosa?
G.C.- Yes
R.W.- Were do you get the water from Ponderosa. Out of this well? Intirely out of this
well?
G.C.- From this well and this spring, yes.
R.W.- You have no other source up there in Ponderosa?
G.C.- No.
D.A.- How much s omes out of the springs?
K.K.- 50 gallons
G.C.- The Tonini is 70 gallons
�-- N.S.- The reason for going into the well box is: The well is reported to produce
peaty;musty odor and taste and must be cycled through the South Side Springs
b as en for blending with the spring water to render it usable.
H.L.- Thats something that I don't under tand, how could putrid water be mixed with
fresh water and come out all right?
G.C.- Henry, didn't you tell me what Edmunds told you, after they found the layer of. . .
H.L.- Trash! Its been washed down off that mountain, wood chips and all sorts of decayed
vegetation that;� were that putrid water is coming from. I suppose that it
would clear up if you pumped enoughx.water through it., I don't know.
R.W`*- Maybe there is a mammoth buried under there.
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R.W. - You're going to put another $14,000. . . . .well, that was three years ago; the
costs have probably gone up 1S% so you have $20,000 for a standby.
G.C. - You have got to have a standby everywhere for water.
R.W. - You people are really intent on spending this $180,000 in a hurry.
G.C. - I am in a hurry. I have been waiting for this money-to spend it.
R.W. - I think if you are going to spend it there are far better improvements on this
water system then to spend it on a standby well.
G.E. - (Demonstrating on the chalk board) You've got this old well here that pumps
into the spring and then from here there is an ordinary pump which pumps the
water. This gives 170 gallons. You can never tell---it may run for another year'
and it may not. And what we need is another one in this area. . .it depends what
the hydralogis t would say. . .maybe we would sink the well around there, that is
why we kept all this area.
R.W. - Alright then.
D.A. - Where is the pump station-next to the road? The one that was just remodeled?
G.C. - Well, this is the booster up there.
R.W. - Where is the pump that pumps the water up into the tank?
G.C. - This one pumps into here.
R.W. - Where is the well that pumps into the tank up at Ponderosa? Does it come out
of there?
G.C. - Yes.
op--
R.W. - Does it pump water into the tank at Ponderosa?
G.C. - No, these are interconnected. . . .it's a very complicated system.
R.W. - Well, I mean is it connected with these tanks up at Ponderosa?
G.C. - Yes.
.R.W.- Where do you get the water from Ponderosa? Out of this well? Entirely out of
this well?
G.C. - From this well and this spring---yes.
R.W. - You have no other source up there? Only Ponderosa?
G.C. - No.
D.A. - How much comes out of the spring?
K.K. - 50 gallons.
G.C. - The Tonini is 70 gallons.
N.S. - The reason for going into the well box is the well is reported to produce a
peaty, musty taste and odor and must be cycled through the South Side Springs
basin for blending with the spring water to render it useable.
H.L. - That's something that I don't understand. How could putrid water be mixed with
fresh water and come out alright?
G.C. - Henry, didn't you tell me what Edmunds told you---after they found the layer of. . .
H.L - Trash! It's been washed down off that mountain. . .wood chips and all sorts of
decayed vegitation-that's where that putrid water is coming from. I suppose that
it would clear up if the pumped enough water to it. I don't know.
R.W. - Maybe there is a mammoth buried under there.
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N.S. - I will acqu.ant you a little bit more with the well. It is 578 feet deep.
At the 203 feet level somebody errored or there was a failure in equipment
because we've got a dog leg or off set in it. There is a hole 578 ft. deep,
but we had to stop the pump at the 203 ft. Thats as far as we could get it
in to the shaft.
H.L.- If they used the other kind of pump they could go all the way to the bottom.
N.S.- There is one thing that George didn't make clear, on this pump; its 25 years
old?
G.C. - It was installed in 1961.
R.W. - Thats eleven years old. Is that old for a pump or piece of machinery thats
in good repair?
N.S. - It's out of date, Roy.
R.W. - Can't we buy a new pump for this well and keep it and when this pump goes out,
the existing one, put the new one in without going for 10 days. Wouldn't that
be possible?
G.C. - No.
R.W. - How much does a new pump cost?
H.L. - I think that last one cost $3,000.
G.C.- Yes , $3,000.
R.W. - You couldn't buy a new pump and store that pump Lmti 1 this one goes out and
put that new one in? There would be a savings of $17,000. I said that it
�-- around $20,000 to put a new one in.
G.C. - Well, I think that one should have two pumps. That is why I recommended that we
installed a second. Because it is better to have two pumps for water. Donner
Lake pumping is easy, those are surface pumps and there is a spare one.
R.W. - I can't see it, its's like taking a double dose of birth control pills.
G.C. - With machinery you must have a back up.
R.W. - Can't you have a standby pump is case this one goes out. Then you could put this
one in. . . . . .you say that it's old, antiquated. Why go to the expence of digging
another well?
G.C. - This one is very complicated and we don't know what we may need down there. . . . .
it takes time to install it.
R.W. - Well doesn't anybody know anything about pumps around here? Do you know any-
thing about pumps ( Directed to Ken)
K.K. - I think the problem with the verticle shaft pump is that if it breaks below
ground, it can't be repaired.
R.W. - What is the chances of it breaking below ground?
G.C. - I have had experience with machinery all my life and I know about such things. . . .
there are no machines that are perfect.
R.W. - Everbody knows that.
H.L. - What is the depth of this last hole that you put in over at South Side?
G.C. - 120 feet.
H.L. - And what's the depth of that one out in the flat?
G.C. - 220 feet.
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H.L. - So you're going to be stuck for about 20 grand to stick a hold down that far?
G.C. - $18,000 to $20,000
R.W. A little while ago you said $15,000.
G.C. - I'm sorry, I made a mistake; myy notes in front of me show $18,000.
H.L. - If you can get the same driller you'll get a good job.
R.W. - In other words, you have no other source for up there?
G.C. - We have the water, but it has to be pumped.
R.W. - In case of an emergency, couldn't we pump it from various locations?
G.C. - Yes, in case of emergency.
R.W. - Why do we have to build this then if we can pump it from various locations?
G.C. - I recommend that a new well be drilled.
N.S. - I think one thing, I couldn't water my yard this afternoon because you are
apparently having trouble just keeping this side of town filled up.
G.C. - No this one filled vezyquickly.
R.W. - Aren't the pumps going almost steady?
G.C. - No, no they fill the tanks in about 12 hours.
H.L. - How did they run out of water this afternoon? I've had about a dozen calls
about i t.
G.C. - Where?
H.L.- Up on High Street.
G.C. - I think that we must be loosing water, because the water that is pumped compared
with what we sell there is a lot of loss.
H.L - That I don't know, but why don't we have the tanks filled? If we were pumping
continuously, thou tanks should be running over. During the middle of the day,
there shouldn't be using that much water. Is that water going down to the mill?
G.C. - Yes.
H.L. - What are they using at the Mill now, they are not running a pond?
G.C. - They sometimes fill the pond and they have their boilers.
H.L. - The boilers. . . . .that's a steady consumption.
G.C. - They fill the pond sometimes. . . . .I think that they do it in the early morning.
H.L. - Is that enough to take the storage away from all our subs cri.bez;up on the hill?
K.K. - We had an air locked pump today. By the time that is was discovered. . . .the
mill is usually the first one to call us. . . . .our storage is down.
H.L. - Where is the water coming from for this tank up here?
K.K. - It's coming from South Side.
H.L. - South Side? What kind of a crossing do we have? How big is the crossing, 4
inch?
G.C. - 6 inch.
K.K. - What I understand is last year, they built the Tonini tank on the same level with
the Town tank to put the town on an equi lerium with the two tanks.
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H.L. - What is the size of your river crossing back and forth?
G.C. - 6 inch.
H.L.-6 inch where? Cross over at the bridge?
K.K. - There are three crossings.
H.L. - Three crossings.
K.K. - A 4 inch crosses over below the 267 bridge.
N.S. - All three of them are in service?
K.K. - The one at the bridge is a four-inch. We are proposing to. . . . .we got a permit
from the State to increase the line size.
N.S. - That's right, you've already installed the larger diameter pipe on the other side
of the bridge to accomidate it.
K.K. - What we are trying to do is to eliminate all these old rivited pipes,too, that
are creating losses to the system. It's a sys timati c way of trying to upgrade
the system.
H.L. - I think my fears about the putrid water could be taken care of by casing. . . . .
casing it out were it goes through that area. . . . .it's not too large an area.
R.W. - Isn't every well cased?
H.L. - How do you case a well with a dog leg in it? It sits right on the surface. . . .
and you can't get the casing all the way into it.
R.W. - Well, you don't go down below the dog leg. . . . .it's cased to the dog leg isn't it?
G.C. - They are all cased, but you have a double casing from the surface down 50 feet.
Like the well we did here.
H.L. - This new well would have to be cased deeper than that if you want to eliminate
the putrid problem.
R.W. - How much did you say that you're going down? How far?
G.C. - 250, unless the. . . . .
R.W. - What happens if you don't find potable water?
G.C. - According to the State report, the aquifer that feeds the springs apparently
flows into the well at 30 foot level.
R.W. - You said"apparently"; you're not sure then? You can't be sure on anything of
that nature.
G.C. - The State must have a record, we don't have it, but I'm sure that the State
must have it. All the wells are. . .State reauirement. . .that there is annular:.
ring of concrete and that's 50 feet deep.
R.W. - Well, at this time, I'm not concerned about the construction, my concern is
whether we need it.
G.C. - We will case ;.t 50 feet. . . . .if we find we may case it a bit lower. . . .we may
find the putrid water you were talking about, so we will have to go lower.
N.S. - Does the State now call for 50 feet?
G.C. - Yes, 50 feet.
N.S. - This well over there only has a 16 foot seal around it.
G.C. - Well, maybe in those days they didn't have i t, but now they do. . .50 feet.
N.S. - The man never had any ring around it at all, then later we poured a hunk of
concrete, 16 feet deep around it.
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G.C. - But now that s the State requirement, this is the way that they do wells now.
this is the way I have them done. Actually the steel plate is just. . . .the outer one
is just to hold the pump plate not really required, but you can pour the concrete
unless you have something to hold it. It is my recommendation that we should
proceed as soon as possible.
N.S. - are you talking about this year or next year or what?
,... G.C. - No. I'm talking about next week. I don't believe in waiting.
R.W. - I can't see all this sudden interest in this well.
G.C. - I have been interested in it for a long time, but we didn't have the money to
do i t, now that we have the money, we should go for i t.
R.W. - I'm sure if there was a need for it we could have obtained the financing for it.
G.C. - The same for the water that comes from Conner Creek. I think it was January 4,
1961. I think that you were on the Board.
R.W. - When?
G.C. - When I suggested that we renew the line that. . . .I had better sketch it on the
board.
H.L. - Well, that was an approved project several months ago.
G.C. - We had trouble with the State.
H.L. - I know that you had trouble with the State, but as far as this Board is concerned,
this was an approved project.
R.W. - What was that?
H.L. - Bringing a new line up 89 up to tie into these. . . . .going by here to tie in to
those big ones. The other line goes through the fill under the freeway.
A hew tape was put in at this point so a few words may be lost.
G.C. - This is the freeway that goes over. . . .I was across the creek, that's Conner Creek
they put a pipe line like this and they shot across like this to where the
school is. Our pipe line is buried 14 feet may 1S feet under the freeway. And
we have trouble with the pipe line that passes by the U.S. Forest Service that was
installed by the Division of Highways and it broke twice and so I got worried
about that pipe line, too. So I suggested. . . .this is the location of the
bridge. . . .over the river; I suggested that we come like this. . . . .and install'
our pipe line on the side of the bridge and then go this way. . . .they agreed to
that; to keep it on the side of the road, incased in concrete, I said okay to
that, but the bridge people refused to let us install the pipe line on the side
of the bridge. . . .we said that we would paint it to match the bridge and all so
that nobody could see it, but they said no.
H.L. - Then how can you go?
G.C. - Now what we have to do is to go again through here like this, with an increased
size, to a 10 inch. Now the waters are very low in the Creek; scarcely any water,
we could cross with a 10 inch and go this way; follow this route.
r` H.L. - How much more footage?
G.C. - Oh, it won't increase the footage very much.
H.L. - SO feet?
G.G. - Yes, about SO feet. Instead of 900 feet, it will be 9SO feet.
H.L. - You haven't got a b ackhoe, you can't do that now.
R.W. - What is the estimated cost of the project?
G.C. - I don't know.
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R.W. - Hasn't this already been authorized.
G.C. - No, it hasn't been authorized, because difficulty with the State.
H.L. - It has been approved by the Board members, but not. . . .
G.C. - It was approved in principle.
R.W. - Then it was. approved, how could you approve something when you didn't have the
cost of it?
G.C. - We had the cost then, but since that time, the costs have doubled or tripled.
R.W. - How long ago was this that the Board gave the approval of this.?
G.C. - It wasn't actually approved, just submitted to the Board.
R.W. - You had the cost then, how much was it then.
G.C. - $9,000-now it may run into more than $20,000.
R.W. - Where did you have the $9,000.
G.C. - Well, we were going to attach it to the bridge.
R.W. - I know,- but where did you get the $9,000 for construction?
G.C. - Well, that's what it was going to cost.
R.W. - I know, but where were you going to get the money to pay for it?
H.L. - Out of the bank; we had it.
G.C. - It was not approved, it was held until we settled with the Division of Highways
because they were asking for this pipe to be encased in concrete and I don't
know what. . . . .they want you to drill under the road, they won't let us cut the
entry or exit to the freeway. The problem is you can't sue the Division of
Highways, they installed this and it was totally wrong they should never bury it
under 14 feet of freeway.
R.W. - They should have had 2 or 3 of those, is what they should have done for the
future. They were totally wrong.
G.C. - They should have had it here.
R.W. - They just didn't visualize; they had such.- a lot of federal_money that they had
to spend. . . .the tax payers were giving it to them so they had to spend it. In
a hurry.
G.C. - If that pipe line should break they will loose their freeway. I told them so.
You know that the fill goes up like a ramp.
R.W. - Yeah, I know if that pipe line should break, George, if my heart should fail,
I'd-die, too. Those are things that )rou have got to look forward to.
N.S. - Well, the same outfit that put Lhat Ranger Station line in, put this line in too
and it failed three times.
G.C. - Yes, and every time it failed, it cost us plenty of money; at least $1,000. They
had the pipe buried, no sand or nothing and one of the pipes actually disintigrated.
R.W. - How did we get into this, when we were working on the authorization of a 12 inch
well at South Side and now we are out here; I can't understand i t.
G.C. - Yes, these are the two things that I recommend. This year as you know, we didn't
have any rain fall. The creek is easy to dig now. Every year there is about. . . .
R.W. - How much do you estimate this project is going to cost you?
G.C. - I will say about $20,000.
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N.S. - George, to sum it up. . . . .
G.C. - We have two important things that really I do recommend to the Board to authorize
me to start. Especially this creek this year; we don't have much water and it
can be done cheaply.
R.W. - Do you have a sufficent supply of water over here without that?
G.C. - Well, all our water come from there, from the other side.
R.W. - Do we have a sufficient supply of water?
G.C. - There is plenty of water.
R.W. - Then why do we have to have this other line?
G.C. - In case that line breaks, what do I know about this. . . .
N.S. - George, handle it this way: If you will recall a year ago and the year before
that, we came up with a work list of project improvements to the water system.
Can you do the same 'thing again; come up with $180,000 worth of projects and
throw in a couple extra and present them to the Board and we will approve or
disapprove the package.
G.C. - I think Bob Moore stated this pipe line has been here 12 years. How do you know
that it is going to break, I said that nobody knows; it could break tomorrow and
it may last another 10 years. . . . .
R.W. - . . . . .or 20 years or 50 years or 100 years.
G.C. - But not when I've seen their work.
�•.. R.W. - How long would it take to repair that?
G.C. - You can't repair it.
R.W. - Okay then, how would it take to put another line in if it broke?
G.C. - It would take two months.
R.W. - And you want to put another line in?
G.C. - If it happens in the winter, you can't dig in the creek. The creek is nearly
dry. I looked at it this morning.
R.W. - The creek will be more dry in the winter. The gates are all off. All shut off
up in Donner.
G.C. - I've never seen it like this, you can walk with your shoes, you don't need any
boots.
R.W. - There is no melting of snow in the mid-winter, so that knocks that arguement.
G.C. - No, say May or June, say May, you know that creek could be 2 or 3 feet deep.
R.W. - Well, a pump could fail. in May or June too. . . .or October or November.
POW& G.C. - We have two pumps there.
R.W. - You have at South Side?
G.C. - On the Donner Creek; we have two pumps.
R.W. - Well, I want to see something on paper before I'll agree to it.
G.C. - That,takes time, I have to get the hydrologist about the well there at South Side.
R.W. - Then I think you should consult with him before it's approved.
G.C. - This is the Donner Creek, see how it goes under the freeway.
R.W. - I know where it goes, I'm well aware of where it's going.
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G.C. - And maybe it's more than 14 feet. I don't know, but at least it's 14 feet.
The Division of Highways, their engineers agree with me that it was wrong to put
the pipe line under here, but
R.W. - Where would you put the pipe line?
G.C. -Its got to go by the footings.
R.W. - I know, I know. . . .where would you have put the original pipe line?
G.C. - I never would have buried it like this 14 feet. I mean this is ridiculous. How
can you get at 14 feet if you had a break? You never can detect it until it
floods the whole area.
N.S. - Come up with a water improvement budget for that $180,000.
G.C. - We have a lot of things to do. We have another crossing to do under the railroad.
N.S. - The District has to get water to West River Street. At one time there was a road
that went through an undercrossing under the railroad. Something like the present
Highway 89 just about opposite Mel Thornton's house. It went under the railroad
tracks and over to the ball park and I haven't had a chance to go over there and
see if I could find that old crossing. Yet, there was an old concrete thing and
maybe. . . . .
R.W. - Go on down, but you iron't find it.
H.L. - They took the reinforcing all down and filled it with boulders. . .irrmle di ate ly
and'then filled it wi th b all ast over the top of that. As soon as they got the
last signature of anybody. . .permission to close. . .it took them about four hours
to get it closed. That was that. I doubt if you will be able to go through there.
N.S. -What we are searching for is an easy way through.
G.C. - Well, that's another third project, but that is not as important as the other
two I mentioned to you.
R.W. - Why is it of any importance at all?
G.C. - To connect the system to get a railroad crossing.
R.W. - Haven't we got a connection down there at 267.
G.C. - That is not enough.
R.W. - Why is it not enough?
G.C. - They are small pipes.
R.W.. - Where would you connect over there if you did go through up there?
G.C. - On River Street.
R.W. - How far down on River Street?
G.C. - Well, we are not very far from our pipe line.
R.W. - You aren't? Where is your pipe line.
G.C. - (To Ken) Do you have the drawings?
R.W. - Well, where abouts, I don't want to see a drawing-where is it? How far does it
extend up there.
G.C. - I don't recall; I looked at it some time ago.
K.K. - We have a line coming from the town tank, down old Highway 40 on this side of
the freeway. Our plans are to tap into that 10 inch line, bring it underneath
the freeway, renovate downtown Main street and commercial row, come underneath
the track to supply water to Vita-Barke and that area. The 10 inch line would
break off into a couple of Wes because downtown Main street is being served by
a two inch line and a one inch line that is constantly breaking.
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N.S. - Put it down on paper, George, list $200,000 worth of projects and your priorities.
G.C. - I gave you the two priorities. The well first; number one.
R.W. - Well, let's have it down on paper and the reasons for it.
H.L. - I'd like to see a little better cost information. Off the cuff prices don't
work out. You can tell us tonight $20,000 and by the time you get through:with
things, it costs around $3S,000 to $40,000. I'd rather have a fact sheet.
G.C. - I was just basing on the previous well.
H.L. - We want today's figures.
G.C. - I think it was two years ago in May.
R.W. - Your inflation has gone up 8 o in two years. Our cost of labor has gone up some
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G.C. - I don't want approval now. Just approve it in principle if you don't think the
idea is. . . .
R.W. - That's why I'd like to see it on paper, George, and your estimated costs and not
some ball park figure.
H.S. - Mr. Chairman, the only way you are going to get around this is to issue a minute
order to the management to furnish the figures you're asking for and they'll
be here by the next meeting. Make it a minute order and he'll take care of it from
there. If that's what you want.
N.S. - That's what we want, I think.
G.C. - I'm going to ask this engineer to come and inspect this and give his recomQnendation.
R.W. - That's exactly what we want.
G.C. - We will have to pay him.
N.S. - Let's go on to the next subject. . . . . .
H.L. - One more question before we leave this. . . .do you suppose it would be possible
to get ahold of that well driller you had before.
G.C. - Yes.
H.L. - How long do you suppose. . .well, you haven't talked to him at all. He's very
good. He's got a real good machine.
G.C. - Yes, he's got a good driller.
H.L. - What is him name?
N.S. - I ran across him in Reno the other day.
H.L. - Yeah, I run into his wife every now and then.
PINE VISTA APARTMENTS - QUITCLAIM DEED
Greater Sierra Construction Company, the Developer of the Pine Vista Apartments, asked
The District for a Quitclaim Deed on the property they purchased from Mr. C.S. Beavers.
Mr. Beavers purchased the land from the District with the restriction for the cemetery
of the Schaeffer family. The developer has contacted an heir of the Schaeffer family, Mrs.
Elenor Erickson, about moving the S or 6 bodies buried in the family plot. Mrs. Erickson
is contacting her attorney. Mr. Cattan proposed that this matter should be referred to
our attorney, Mr. Paul Chamberlain.
PRESS RELEASES
Mr. Cattan said that in the future all press releases will come from Tom Paulus, Assis-
tant Manager. If Tom is not available, Mr. Cattan will issue the press releases. One
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of the Directors suggested that a press release be prepared notifying the public about
the rate increase that will go into affect on September 1. Mr. Cattan said that he
would prepare such a statement after consultation with our attorney, Mr. Martin McDonough.
PONDEROSA PALISADES SOUTH PAYMENT - 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3
Mr. Cattan said that the Directors have agreed in principal to serve this subdivision.
,,... He said that Paul Chamberlain is drawing up a contract. The developer asked Mr. Cattan
if he could make the 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 type of payments that the District is allowing
F other developers to make. The Board decided to grant this type of payment plan to the
developer.
It was moved by H.Loehr and seconded by D. Anderson that the developer be allowed
to make payments in the following manner: 1/3 to be paid now, 1/3 to be paid in one
year, and 1/3 after 2 years; at the rate of 7% on the defered balance. A bond will be
drawn to cover the last 2/3. ROLL CALL: R. Waters, aye; D. Anderson, aye; H. Loehr,
aye; N. Stone, aye.
WAREHOUSE EXTENSION
Mr. Cattan said that the foundation is in on the warehouse extension. He hoped the new
floor would prevent the 6 inches of water that usually runs through the extension in
April and May. He answered some Questions as to the use of the new extension and said
that he would compile an estimate on the cost for the next meeting. He said that the
extension would house equipment that has previously been left out in the snow in the
winter.
COST OF SURVEY - 35.6 ACRES
The Board was presented with a breakdown on the cost of putting the 35.6-acres to bid.
The total figure was $3,9 7 7.0 3. The Manager explained the-high cost was due to sale
k of two portions of said land which necessitated two extra surveys, and had to be zoned
before sale. The Manager recommended that Cook Associates complete the transaction for
zoning being that only a little work is required.
VAN WETTER
President Stone said that Mr. Van Wetter had called him and wanted to know the answers
to some questions. He wanted to know how the Board arrived at the $3,000 figure and
also if he would receive a refund if the other two lots are sold and the developer
requests water.
Mr. Cattan said he would not receive a refund. This is part of the reason the cost was
reduced. Mr. Cattan said that they would have to be extended another 80 feet to reach
his property. He said that the hospital is not going to go ahead with the extension
to the line. Director Waters suggested that the District put a line up to the top of
the road since it will have to be done eventually.
Mr. Cattan said that the hospital would have to pay for the extension. Director Waters
said that in 1967 the District paid Mr. Topel for a line instead of charging him for
the line. He said he didn't feel we should put people in the water business by charging
them for water. He said when he was on the Board five years ago, the District paid
Mr. Topel $12,000 to put a line from the old Bank of America building to the mill. He
thought it was unfair to charge Mr. Van Wetter $3,000 when the District had paid Mr.
Topel $12,000 for a line.
Mr. Cattan said he was not involved with the water department and was not manager at the
time the District paid Mr. Topel for the line. He said he is not in favor of subsidiz-
ing developers by giving away water lines .
The President asked Mr. Cattan to clarify the matter for Mr. Van Wetter.
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